I know the ArrowCreek Golf course is in a very, very sorry state but I don’t want to pay to fix it because I don’t play golf and I never intend to. I really, really resent knowing that every penny spent to fix it up is going to be “paid back plus 12% or more” to the FOA when the ArrowCreek HOA board buys the course from the FOA based on their under-table handshakes and other crap that is going on. They have more Is than I do and it is going to be shoved down my throat because there aren’t enough ArrowCreek homeowners who don’t play golf paying attention to what is going on to stop it from happening whenever the voting material and ballots show up in our mail. I throw up to those watching from the side-lines to pay attention to what is going on and vote NO to owning a HOA-run golf course when the time comes or we will all be paying way too high HOA fees to keep the pretty people happy in their little club. I am fed up. I wish there were a way to jettison my piece of property away and secede from all this arrogant behavior and better-than-thou cockiness. “You know you have no chance to win.” “Just eat it.” I have the same rights that they do! Annexation to Reno? Maybe it is time to write a letter and do away with the HOA.
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If the Golf Course, a private business becomes an organization subsidized by the homeowners,
the subsidized organization will have no incentive to operate efficiently much less profitably.
Furthermore why should non-golfers be coerced into subsidizing golfers.
If this program is such a wonderful idea, just make it voluntary and see how many owners
elect to sign up.
PS: Fear and force will never create successful and profitable enterprise.
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Has anyone been able to identify a profitable golf club in a residential community that survives without ever-increasing community subsidies? What model are the advocates for purchasing the golf course using to demonstrate the potential for success?
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April 7, 2015
Dear Mr. Duncan:
The ACHOA Board is prepared and will answer questions relating to ArrowCreek and specifically any agreement that the ACHOA may become involved. The ACHOA Board is not in the position or able to provide insights on business activities that are not those of the ACHOA. As best as possible the following responses are provided to your three questions through the assistance of data provided by FOA.
1) Has anyone been able to identify a profitable golf club in a residential community that survives without ever-increasing community subsidies?
There are several long-operating public and private golf course operations in Northern Nevada and California. They all appear to be profitable operations but detailed financial information from these operators have not been provided. Most of these golf operations are within residential or resort living communities.
Brookside Golf Course, Coyote Moon Golf Course, Dayton Valley Golf and Country Club, Edgewood Tahoe Golf Course, Genoa Lakes Golf Club, Grizzly Ranch Golf Club, Hidden Valley Country Club, Incline Village, LakeRidge Golf Course, Montreux Golf and Country Club, Nakoma Golf Resort, Old Greenwood, Plumas Pines Golf Resort, The Resort at Red Hawk, Rosewood Lakes Golf Course, Sierra Sage Golf Course, Schafer Mill Golf and Lake Club, Silver Oak Golf and Event Center, Somersett Country Club, Tahoe Donner Golf Course, Washoe County Golf Club, Whitehawk Ranch Golf Club, Wildcreek Golf Course, and Wolf Run Golf Club
2.) What model/s are the advocates for purchasing the golf course using to demonstrate the potential for success?
The answer is still pending.
The first issue still remains should the community purchase the 545 acres and make it part of the ACHOA common area. This has not been determined.
The potential operational models after ownership are still being vetted.
3.) Has the ACHOA Board’s due diligence taken into account the loss of revenue, provided by the for profit golf course, to the ACHOA? It didn’t appear in the chart package last November.
The ACHOA Board is not sure what you are asking. Both Aspen Sierra and FOA have paid the ACHOA Road access charges during 2014. $15,696 was received in 2014 and the 2015 Approved Budget reflects $15,696. The current monthly bills are being paid by FOA.
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