ACHOA Board Voted 4-3 To Go With ACCC Suggested Proposal

The room was packed to the gills! Lots of wine glasses. Lots of minds. Rich Kenny presented the ACCC Report and Recommendation to the Board. Lots of questions and speeches were next.

The committe recommendation:
The ACCC recommends that the HOA Board accept the proposed agreement between the HOA and Friends of ArrowCreek to purchase and lease-back the property under the golf courses at The Club at ArrowCreek, as described in the Term Sheet. The ACCC further recommends that this proposal be moved forward for a vote of all ArrowCreek homeowners within the next 60 days, subject to legal review.

The vote of the board was ACLegendGC
Yes: Elliot, Rakusin, Seelen and Fox
No: Dickinson, Krisch, Liebman

Maybe Mr. Liebman will forward his speech to ArrowCreek411 for publication. FYI though – It is the ACCC – ArrowCreek Community Club Committee, not the Communications Committee who did the presentation.

So, here you have the ACCC Report and Recommendation. Please record your thoughts and questions in comments below. Please keep the comments tactful! Reread How to Express Your Truth With Honesty and Respect as a reminder.

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Sense For Your Cents

By Arrowcreek Neighbor

Cents Sense by Nour NourallaMr. Sonntag’s arguments and calculations that it would cost us just mere cents to support or buy the golf course do not make sense. However, it is good to see that both Mr. Sonntag and Mr. Duncan can agree that the best option for us all is to leave the golf club in the hands of the FOA. I wish the ACHOA board could agree!

As to the point of fire protection and financial liability: don’t forget that in Eva Segerblom’s letter to the HOA board she states that homeowner’s can be assessed to maintain defensible space around the golf course (GC) IF we own it. IF we were to buy the GC property, we would also incur property tax payments, and an increase in our reserve fund payments. We cannot use our reserve funds to pay for the purchase of the property like Mr. Sonntag suggests. The reserve fund is meant to maintain current assets, so IF we own the golf course, any sum of money could be used to maintain the golf course. Look at the Residents’ club: I would like to see that improved before sinking money into the club house. If we own the golf course or are somehow contractually linked to the GC, the board can potentially increase our HOA fees by 15% every year and ask for special assessments without any vote by the homeowners. In a few years we could be well over $400 with our monthly HOA fees.

But wait, the real estate agents told us, that does not matter. Did they have any data to support that opinion? I did not hear any and there is no community here in Reno that they could base this opinion on. Remember, the realtors on the panel were selected, and not a random sample. Two of them are GC members. One realtor, Diana Renfroe, neglected to say, that her listing in AC has not sold in over 4 months – that is with the current HOA fees, and realtors do not have to disclose anything about the GC issue. In the meantime she has been selling homes elsewhere in Reno, some of them within a few days of putting them on the market. I spoke to a realtor that sold two properties in AC late last year. She was contacted by both of her clients because they want to get out of here because they are afraid of having to support a golf course on their fixed incomes. One of my neighbors wanted her realtor to be on the panel. This request was rejected by the board. So as far as an objective opinion from the realtors, I think there is reason for doubt. They said themselves that they sell the positive and they took advantage of selling themselves that evening.

As to Mr. Sonntag’s point of decreasing home values if the golf course were to go brown: look at Mr. Duncan’s table about home values related to the closure of D’Andrea and Northgate. Look at the Washoe County Assessor Records posted (7/28/15 or 8/22/15). I found the Afterthoughts on the 7/28/15 HOA meeting very insightful on that topic. It just is not true.

I am sure we all simply cannot wait to find out what the board will be proposing regarding the golf club issue. I hope that before any vote we get to review the drafts of any agreements or contracts in detail and that Arnold Palmer will keep its promise of informing us about the golf course state of business and their business plan. The golf industry is still down and the future does not look bright. Based on consumer demand, 700 courses need to close before there is a balance between supply and demand (see the Koppenhaver article on this site). So I, for one, am reluctant to spend any of my hard earned Cents on a golf course unless I get some hard data that make Sense.

Arrowcreek Neighbor

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To Add Or To Take Away Makes No Difference: Communication Is #1

“Boards should not take lightly any decision to change or remove the common area amenities.”


This article hits the nail on its head – only for ArrowCreek, it is the assumption of a golf complex being an amenity – when it isn’t. The ArrowCreek builder very specifically kept the club very separate both as a business and in the details of the ArrowCreek governing documents. This article references California law like so many of the ArrowCreek pro-golf people like to do. We are in NEVADA, but the fiduciary duty is the same. The ACHOA Board now has a mighty wolf pack (The University of Nevada @ Reno mascot also happens to be the Wolf Pack.) to contend with when they could have skirted it all by behaving in the above recommended manner. Trust is earned. Respect is earned. Self-respecting people cannot be bought with promises or dollars.

Community Associations Blog on Amenities & Fiduciary Duty

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Not on Our Dollars: It Does Not Make ‘Cents!’

By Ron Duncan

If the ACHOA Board were merely dealing in common cents, we’d all applaud.

Unfortunately they are dealing with very real dollar issues.

This is further complicated by the lack of open meetings that candidly discuss options to an end that affects all of ArrowCreek.

From the beginning, the Golf Course issue was hidden from the general property owners in the ArrowCreek subdivision. From that first meeting at the ASSOCIA office spaces on 14 April 2014, between the ACHOA Board members Paul Burkett, Sam Fox, Robin Rakusin, Rich Kenny and Century Golf (the parent company of Arnold Palmer Golf Management) until the October 2014 ACHOA Board meeting, there were no communications to the ArrowCreek owners about a plan for the golf course. A deal was sealed. Only in October did the ACHOA BOD reveal that a plan had been developed to form a ‘Joint Venture’ with Arnold Palmer Golf Management. Unfortunately, the ACHOA Board, relying on legal counsel, discovered that the ACHOA is prohibited from becoming a ‘for profit’ corporation in the ACHOA Articles of Incorporation. Now the tap dancing started – to stay with the donors but get legal with the property owners. So, the ‘plan’ for a Joint Venture was abandoned in February 2015 – but not before the ACHOA ACCC presented to the assembled property owners a budgetary estimate of how the ‘Joint Venture’ would make a profit in year 3, with only a $100 increase in monthly dues.

Next from these same individuals came a pitch ‘to control our destiny.’ This was a poorly disguised ‘pitch’ to persuade the ACHOA property owners to buy the ‘land’ and worry about what it would be used for after a purchase. But wait! There’s more! That then led us to the ‘Green vs. Brown’ discussion. This should not even be a topic of discussion for the ACHOA as we do not own the property, and the people who do own it have full control of its use. If one moves to the ‘high desert,’ one should expect ‘high desert.’ If one moves here for the golf assets, then there are still plenty of them provided within an hour’s drive of ArrowCreek. If one moves here for the security of a gated community with common swimming pools, tennis courts, walking paths, exercise equipment and serenity, those have been identified as amenities and we still have all of that.

So, why have this discussion of ‘Green vs. Brown?’ Are we that panicked over the potential of a fire? The September legal opinion from the ACHOA lawyer says it is not our responsibility UNLESS we own the property. The Washoe County Truckee Meadows Fire Protection District Fire Marshal has stated the same fact last May.

IF we were to own the property, we would take on a HUGE financial liability that would decrease every home value in ArrowCreek for years to come.

IF the course were to go ‘Brown,’ the table below contains some actual data that the ACHOA Board refuses to acknowledge: All properties referred to in the table are adjacent to their respective current and former golf courses. The values are extracted from the UNR Brian Bonnenfant study. Analysis of the values in the study demonstrate that home values follow the local general housing market. After 24 months, at most, ArrowCreek property values would be down a projected 1%. They are worse off today due to the uncertainty of the ACHOA path forward.

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So, what is really behind the urge to acquire the golf course? It is not to make a profit – that is prohibited by our Articles of Incorporation. It is not to ‘control our destiny,’ the developer took care of that in Planning Commission Case number DA9-1-93-2. ArrowCreek has allocated all the lots permitted under that agreement with the original property owners. So, what is it? Is it to support a private corporation to provide entertainment to select property owners?

May The Club live long and prosper!! May the ACHOA keep out of private business affairs and develop the ACHOA amenities described in our Articles of Incorporation and CC&Rs!

Ron Duncan

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How to Express Your Truth With Honesty and Respect

This may be a very good article for our ArrowCreek Community to read before the Wednesday, September 16th Special Board Meeting! It was the first thing I read on my phone this morning….. I took it to be an omen….. yes, it is talking about couples…but it is interpersonal communication, period. If all our angry (and not so angry) people communicated using this technique, we might accomplish more listening. “And if you don’t want to work with me to resolve an issue, why on Earth are we having this conversation?”

The article is written by Fred Kofman, Ph.D. in Economics, who is Vice President at LinkedIn. This post is part of LinkedIn’s Conscious Business Program.

How to Express Your Truth With Honesty and Respect (6.4)HandHeart (photo from the article)

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Early Reminder For ACHOA BOD Meeting & Legal Noxious Weeds Response

The following email was received by ArrowCreek Residents who have signed up for email notifications from Associa, the management company servicing the ACHOA.
Also for your reading pleasure, ArrowCreek411 has added a new page called “Truckee Meadows Fire Protection District Info” to the top menu.
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1) Reminder of the 9/16/15 Special ACHOA Board Meeting for Golf
2) Opinion on Noxious Weeds (related to golf)

Dear ArrowCreek HOA Homeowner,

REMINDER, there is an ACHOA Special Golf Board Meeting scheduled for Wednesday, September 16, 2015, 5:30 PM at The Club At ArrowCreek. A report and recommendations from the ArrowCreek Community Club (ACCC) Committee will be discussed regarding a potential business arrangement with the Friends of ArrowCreek (FOA), which may require the Board to pass a resolution to initiate a community wide vote on a Ballot Proposition concerning the business arrangement. All owners are encouraged to attend. remember

CLICK HERE to view/print the ArrowCreek HOA Special Golf Board Meeting Notice & Agenda for Wednesday September 16, 2015. The Agenda has also been posted on the http://www.arrowcreek-hoa.com website.

Numerous questions have been raised by community members concerning the ArrowCreek Homeowners Association, Inc.’s potential responsibility for maintaining The Club At ArrowCreek golf course areas if the current or future owners fail to maintain the property. The Board of Directors have requested that HOA counsel provide a review of current Nevada statutes and local ordinances that could impose a fine or penalty upon the Association concerning the related 524 acres of land within The Club At Arrowcreek.

CLICK HERE to view/print the document that explains – The Noxious Weed Statute, Truckee Meadows Fire Protection District application of the NAC – 2012 International Wildland Urban Interface Code, and Nevada Community Association Uniform Act NRS 116 and how they may create potential costs for the Association. These exposures are very real and the Board is developing strategic plans to ensure compliance. This document has also been posted on the http://www.arrowcreek-hoa.com website.

Sincerely,
The ArrowCreek HOA Board of Directors

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Drink the Green Kool-Aid: “Common Cents”

“COMMON CENTS”

By Chuck Sonntag

Regards the title of this short note, may it not be a “Paine” for you to read. Instead, may it put into words some of my thoughts and conclusions regarding our wonderful community and its current issues for your consideration. Please do not be offended by what is catalogued here; we all have opinions and thoughts, and many will differ from my take on the core of “Common Cents.”

My thoughts are summarized below, not in perhaps, the best organized treatise; but I think the points are clear. As most of you know, there has been much talk regarding our community focused on the sticking point of “what to do with the golf course, if anything.”  Over the past year some conversations and writings on the subject have come with rancor and suspicion; some with calm and prudent thought; some with intelligent and excellent insight; and some with a lack substance composed mostly of emotion. Let me talk a path in words (with options) that I think supports a rational tract that might work for our community.

I attended most of the meetings, the open discussions, and I read and digested as best possible all the volleys of e-mails and blogs regarding our ArrowCreek community in terms of the golf situation over the last year or so.  I have finally formed at least a qualitative opinion of what might be prudent path(s) for our community to follow. I summarize that and the suggested options as best I can below. Again, this is mostly qualitative. Quantitative numbers in round terms are included, but they are just estimates for talking points based on information provided to date as I remember it, and a rough basis for thought and future direction and action. This is a “strawman” for initial discussion and it welcomes constructive criticism, correction, and alternate ideas. Please shoot arrows but be sure of your targets and your aim.

FIRST POINT: I believe it is axiomatic that “The green lands upon which the current ArrowCreek golf courses lie must stay green.”  A corollary to this is: “The green lands must not be allowed to go brown back to an uncontrolled native state.”  Why should this be “ground truth” (no pun intended) for us? Studies at our meetings have shown there is a high cost to install and/or maintain a controlled “brown” situation on the current green spaces; minimum cost to do it right would be anywhere from $500K to $3M dollars to restructure the green areas to natural plantings without noxious weeds and such. And guess what, if the green goes brown per this cost, it will then have to be maintained by someone for fire standards, and that cost money, lots of it. Keeping it green costs lots of money too, but safety and protection come with this cost. Not to mention the contiguous beauty of homes integrated with flowing green belts that are a hallmark of our community.

What will have been done to us if we go brown? We have removed the best fire protection we have today, our green space and the watering systems that could and would help prevent mass destruction of ArrowCreek by a raging wind-blown fire. In my opinion it’s not if a big wind-blown fire will hit us, it’s only when it will happen. Next time you have a chance take a look at the very large map that was posted on the wall at the last two meetings. Almost all the homes are protected by grass in some context, except for the periphery or perimeter of our community. Granted, much of the golf course acreage is native vegetation, but the dispersed green elements (130 to 160 acres, approx.) would be vital to fire protection by sectioning the community internally. One lady who lived at Caughlin Ranch declared at one of our meetings that the only thing that stopped their bad fire a few years ago was the property grass lines (and the brave firefighting folks of course). Retaining the green and the watering ability would then allow the firefighters to employ “concentration of force” to stop the fire at the community boundaries, with only lesser support required at internal “hot spots” of native vegetation. In most cases those “hot spots” would burn themselves out because of isolation provided by the grass boundaries of the golf course lands (and private lawns) and our homes should be spared. Our stone roofs would stave off home ignition by wind blown sparks from the “hot spots.”

A “do nothing” back to nature brown reversion of the golf course to desert environment would also require even more extensive fire protection dollars, and would be even riskier form a safety standpoint. This would invite a greater probability of destruction since the green lands that would then go to brown interlace our entire community and as such they would provide quicker “feed paths” for flames and such.

SECOND POINT: I believe that it is axiomatic that “If the green goes brown it will economically degrade home values.” Some will disagree, but to me the group of realtors made this clear, both during and after the last meeting on home values. It’s just “common sense” that our “common cents” would be affected. Other developments that have gone by the wayside have shown this trend as well, we have seen reports. The realtors said and implied many things; they also said “they would deal with whatever happens to the golf course.” But even without their input (by the way, they were more open about their feelings in side discussions regarding “keeping the green” after the meeting), a competent person knows that if the green goes to brown the “community look” will be degraded and home values will suffer. I would guess at least 10-20% in value. The “time to sale” of all homes, not just the ones on the golf course(s), will for sure increase. Note from the “big map” (again, posted on the wall at our informational meetings) that most homes are either on the golf course(s) or have a view of the golf course(s) in some capacity from the home; or during the process of “coming and going” to their residences, owners see the green. Would you rather see manicured healthy green spaces linking the homes, or would you prefer to view additional volatile desert sagebrush potentially going wild among our homes, and of course with the additional reptiles and other animals that inhabit said desert environs. I believe we have a nice balance today and for several reasons that should be maintained.

THIRD POINT: I believe it is axiomatic that “The best and most economical way for the land to stay green is for the Friends of ArrowCreek (FOA) to be successful with the golf course by building memberships and having financial success.” They then continue to be an integral and good focus point and asset and valued entity of our community providing services that have been more substantially subscribed to as of late, but as such they would continue to be separate from the HOA. Thus the HOA and its members would have little financial obligation to the Club and the FOA (or other perhaps future owner(s)). The FOA are then responsible for the fire mitigation to protect us.  Golf can continue for those interested, including members outside of the community, who would help pay the bucks to keep us green. The golfers and club members would then more directly pay for what they use for the benefits garnered. I so strongly believe that this is a viable path that I signed up for a golf membership to support this path even though I only play one round a year with my brothers. I am basically helping in a small way to fund their continuance for what I feel is the direct good of the community.

FOURTH POINT: “The ‘second best’ and less economical way (from a resident standpoint) for the land to stay green is for the people of ArrowCreek to acquire the golf course and club for the community.”  This path would not really be a bad thing, despite vocal elements of rancor I have witnessed by a small group of homeowners. Yes, it would cost each of us additional fees; but we would own the golf lands and the clubhouse (important and very useful as a potential community focus), and we would better control the internal destiny and manageability of our community. It is here by adapting “common sense” to proceed in this vein we would each need to contribute the “common cents” to keep our community green–and also more united with a “physical club focus” available to all for melding our resident attributes. In this scenario, every homeowner would be a social member of the club and share in all its facilities except for actual golf on the links, for which additional fees would be charged for each use. The restaurant, the bar, the availability of meeting rooms, the center for gathering and all events-each homeowner would be part of the club family. So if we do this, how much would this cost each of us?

This is hypothetical, but a targeted guess. Again, don’t hold me to the quantitative details. The HOA would purchase the golf course and club from the FOA for $3M (including back bills). The $3M is a targeted guess, it may be more or it may be less. The HOA would obtain an 80% 20 year mortgage at 6%. The down payment would come from our HOA reserve fund, which could then be replenished over time by a very slight fee increase ($5/month over 10 years), or by a “one time” special assessment of $600 from each household. The resulting mortgage payment would be $17,194 per month, that divided by 1024 homes (or lots) would mean a monthly fee increase added to the $218 that most of us now pay, of just $17 per month. So for a small down payment outlay in some form ($600) and less than the cost of a loaded medium pizza from Round Table per month ($17), our community can acquire the 500 plus acres of the golf course and the clubhouse and all that comes with it. Now once we have it, we must maintain it. Various sources indicate that before the current surge in paid golf membership (from 180 members to 500 or so members) the golf course was losing just under $1M a year. The increase in golf paid memberships, of several varieties, should mitigate this loss of $1M to some degree. But let’s assume an annual loss of $1M including the golf club & course operations and maintenance of all the club lands, including fire mitigation. So the residents of the community would then need to assume this loss over the course of each year. This would add approximately $81 per month to our current $218 per month assessment. Thus, buying and maintaining the golf course and keeping ArrowCreek green would cost every homeowner about $98 more a month. The current cost of a social membership is $95 a month. So for essentially the same price as a current social membership every member of ArrowCreek would have a social membership and access to the club and its resources, with the option to play golf for additional fees if desired. Non-resident golf members would have access only to the club and the golf courses and not the HOA resident centers or other HOA entities. They would have to “check in” at the gate every time they entered ArrowCreek and would be on a special list to expedite entrance.

FIFTH POINT:  “At this time it appears the best economical use for keeping ArrowCreek green is to retain its use as a golf facility and also make the club structural facilities the social center of the community.”  Why do I make this statement? Other avenues were explored in our meetings. There was talk of making the green into parkland. It was shown that this is not a practical solution. The park would be most likely be almost equally expensive to maintain as the current golf course; expensive new infrastructure would need to be added; and we would be required to open up our community and provide access to all non-residents if we desired outside funding support, which would probably be necessary. The lady who is in charge of local Washoe parks described to us at one of our meetings how their conversion of another golf course to parkland was ongoing and how it was progressing; that it was expensive and complex; that it had a long timeline to completion; and that one of the requirements associated with that conversion was a stipulation that the converted golf course must have some money-making activities to support its existence. If we were to acquire the Club facilities and 500 plus acres and retain it as a golf course concurrent with a community social center, then there is already an income stream available to us, one much better than the archery range mentioned for the other park. This would mitigate the overall loss at first, and we could then build upon our acquisition for additional non-profit income venues centered on our acquisition (more weddings, perhaps an outdoor concert venue like Paul Masson Winery in Saratoga, CA., cross country ski runs in winter along the links, etc.).

We really do not have a resident “social center” in ArrowCreek. I think events over the past year show that we need one. The HOA Recreation Center is used by individuals and families, but it is not normally used as a “come together” focus point except for small personal groups, and its facilities are limited. The acquisition of the Club would provide such a community focus for socializing, distinct from the golf aspect. Some people think of the current club as only a “haven for the older folks” who only play a golf round then hang out after the golf round to have a liquid round. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There is a young generation (20’s, 30’s) that is making the club their home under the new ownership. I met a young lady, I’ll call her “J”, who was “bubbling over” about the club and its current amenities. She has two young children and she currently takes advantage of the “licensed” childcare service at least two days a week ($12 first child, $8 second child total, meals included) to allow her time to socialize at the club facility with her friends. One of them is a young Tesla manager at some level. Did you know that this childcare service is available? That there is a young generation interested in our club and not “put off” by the costs of current membership that they actually see as a bargain?

It should be added here as a footnote that we have discussed at our meetings the potential of re-zoning the 500 plus golf property acres for housing or some other purpose. It was evident at our HOA meetings that this path could not be legally followed under current and strict zoning provisions. It’s just not going to happen in our lifetimes unless someone buys all the homes on ArrowCreek and the golf courses, and has the connections, the legal OK, and a zillion dollars to do a desired conversion.

SIXTH POINT:  “Let the Board of Directors and the committee entities do their job as they see fit-we elected them to represent us.” More specifically, let them work the golf course issue with a free hand and transparently report their findings. They were elected to watch over our community and its support functions/assets with the best interest of all the homeowners being their driving force (no pun intended). They are not paid for their time. Constructive comment and criticism and questioning from the homeowners at meetings is solidly valid; but disrespect and rancor is not. Remember that issues like the golf course (acquisition or not) can only be eventually decided by a vote of all the homeowners (property owners).

The golf course issue is an internal matter and we should keep it internal. There is no need for demonstrations at the front gate (as mentioned by some), the generation of “cartoons” mocking our elected board, or extensive publicity beyond ArrowCreek. This will dust our community with negativism and an unneeded blend of uncertainty. Acts such as this might make the front page of the Reno Gazette-this in turn would attach a long-lasting stigma to our community and a loss in property valuation for sure. The correct path is for the board, its committees, and the homeowners to support valid multi-directional communication of valid facts and recommendations to all residents as said facts and recommendations are determined. Non-disclosure Board or Board member meetings, separate discussions, and back room politics are a part of life in all mechanisms of our society. As long as the facts of all potential paths and recommendations regarding the golf issue are eventually presented clearly and honestly to all homeowners, then should there be a path(s) to take that makes sense, remember that only we the homeowners can approve or disapprove board recommendations of this type and magnitude. We the residents should check all facts for accuracy; question any conclusions by the HOA board; and quit roasting them as they try to do their job. I personally think they are trying to do a good job and appear to be taking a reasonable path on our behalf.

SEVENTH POINT: “Alternate Compromise Solution” One other path to consider to avoid going “brown” is for the HOA to provide water subsidy dollars, along with some grounds maintenance support from existing staff, to the owners of the golf course in exchange for club access for dining and meetings, etc., for all HOA members.  This would preserve a continued legal separation of the HOA and the FOA (or other owners). This would keep the “green” and avoid the “brown” and all the issues including the “less fire protection position” that “going brown” brings. If you want to golf you would still have to pay for that privilege, but perhaps that cost could be reduced a bit for residents. More exploration of this option would be needed.

SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS:  “Green Is Keen, Brown’s A Frown” By some method or path or utilization/marshalling of resources, it is imperative to keep the current golf course lands green and not let them go brown. There are reasons of safety, beauty, and property value. This may be possible by doing nothing. Let’s hope the golf club gets enough new members to break even and survive independently. If that cannot be the case over time, evaluate the possibility of subsidizing the green spaces with funded water and maintenance support. If all else fails, acquire the golf course lands, utilize the club as a community focus by including every homeowner as a social member, build up the paying golf segment as best possible to include outside users, and then subsidize the purchase via “common cents” as necessary on a non-profit basis.

Chuck Sonntag
Harbottle Drive
ArrowCreek

 

 

 

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Questions and … “Answers”…?

Presented below is a chronologic chain of one-way communications from Jim Verhey to the HOA Board via Jeanne Tarantino at Associa begun back on August 4 relative to establishing a framework of decision making for the golf course options that might be available to the Board and to the ArrowCreek Owners. Considering that there was never a response to this question set for the noted options, and considering that they might be addressed in the Wednesday, Sept 16th special meeting, it seems that it may be helpful to have the background questions available for potential attendees as preparation for this special session on September 16. Hopefully the questions will be answered with valid background substantiation. So far we haven’t seen or heard any factual data to back up any repeated and repeated and repeated, please-drink-the-Kool-Aid, feel-good statements.

By Jim Verhey

Sent 08/04/2015 to
ArrowCreek Homeowners Association Board
C/O Ms. Jeanne Tarantino
Associa Management

Board Members:

Thank you for the two most recent Communications Committee sessions on the costs of various alternatives for use of the ArrowCreek Development open space currently used and owned by the Golf Course along with the Realtor perspectives on the merits of ArrowCreek and their observations of the impact of the uncertainty associated with the future of the Golf Course and the potential market impact of increased HOA fees.

The more I have heard and read about the various aspects of the purchase option, the more questions I have been confronted with on the unsettled details of the proposed purchase option and various other alternatives that may have been briefly discussed but not clearly defined or quantified for a clear picture of how various options stack up according to costs and benefits.

Presented as follows are a number of questions regarding the cost /benefit analysis of various options that seem plausible and could be within the realm of investigation, analysis, discussion and decision. They hopefully will be considered to be a help in establishing an informed and objective decision making framework for the Board and for the Membership.

If your answers are unable to be specific or to the point due to particular data needs or other factors, it would be helpful to nevertheless have answers based on some identified and reasonable set of assumptions for a rational Ball Park response.

OPTION 1: HOA Denies ACC Purchase and Gets On with Promoting and Managing a Mutually Beneficial Lifestyle Community

What are the short and long term costs or disadvantages of deciding to do nothing about the ACC purchase while supporting the current owners with encouragement and appreciation for starting the Club turnaround, gaining additional members, and establishing an asset they and the HOA membership can be proud of?

What is the HOA plan for further development of the HOA owned 500+ acre Open Space to enhance utilization for the benefit of the other 79% non golf oriented HOA Membership? i.e., walking- hiking jogging paths,mountain bike paths, etc.

What is being done/or will be done soon by the HOA Board to foster/facilitate community affinity interest clubs to embellish the advantages of our community and brighten our prospects for having a happy/friendly/financially sound/crisis free lifestyle community? i.e., definition and communication of designated group affinity options per the demographic survey including conveniently communicated meeting dates,meeting place, and sign up sheets, startup facilitation leadership, etc.

OPTION 2: HOA Provides a Subsidy to ACC Owner for an Ongoing Golf Course Deficit

What is the estimated amount of an initial & potential HOA subsidy that would be required to support the status quo operation of the Golf Course with recognition of the continued negative trend for golf revenues in the future…assuming a well run operation with tight management for service quality and revenue/expense control?

What is the acceptable and competitive monthly HOA fee increase for ArrowCreek HOA members to support a subsidy of the Golf Course deficit to support the retention of the green space views and fire break?

What Club and Course amenities would be offered by the Golf owner entity to the non-golf member HOA members for provision of the subsidy?

If both Courses would be open for public play, would a subsidy be required?

OPTION 3: HOA Purchase of Golf Club Assets with Ongoing Operation by Contract Management

What do independent/objective golf turnaround advisors and licensed Golf Course Business Brokers currently use for purchase price metrics for golf courses without deficits and with property that can be developed for other uses? How about the purchase price metrics for consistent deficit projects and with real estate that cannot be developed due to onerous regulatory and zoning barriers and constraints such as ArrowCreek?

What would the maximum purchase price be for attaining HOA breakeven feasibility success for the project purchase including all Water Arrears, Back Taxes, Palmer contract escalations and any other total cost outliers? What is the assumed financing method and loan feature/conditions that could be anticipated?

Due to deficit operations for the Club currently understood to be at an estimated $1 Million, what would the acceptable HOA contractor increase be for membership? a round of golf? What increases are considered tolerable by consumers for the restaurant -bar operations, etc. in order to cover the deficit? How many members would drop if the rates would increase? How many more rounds of golf are needed to cover the deficit at the increased round rate? How many rounds would be lost due to the increase?

How would costs and revenues be affected if one of the two courses were shut down?

OPTION 4: HOA Purchase of Golf Club Assets for Closure & Conversion to Other Non Golf Uses

Again,what would the maximum purchase price including total outlier costs be for a feasible HOA acquisition and closure/conversion investment?

What are the initial setup and annual costs of maintaining the former golf green space to other minimal uses such as for purposes of limited recreation and fire breaks ? What agrarian range management methods would be used to reduce the costs to the basic minimum? i.e., sheep and goat grazing, HOA owned tractor with Brush Hog use. What would the cost be for the minimum?

What revenue might be generated from the current facility and possible improvements following golf course closure?ie Club facility sale &conversion to Assisted Living/Child Day Care,or Club facility rental for events such as weddings with retention of the Bar-grill and Restaurant for HOA members and public, and/or development of a RV/Boat storage facility in an unoffending location,establishment of fee based Equestrian grazing, trails and facilities etc.

Following a Master Re Planning process and the prospect of Washoe County approval, what is the feasibility of a sale of select Golf course Open Space to abutting homeowners? What would the sale price be, what portion of the initial purchase price might be recovered by the HOA, how would maintenance costs for the open space be reduced?

Thanks for your consideration in applying serious thought and energy to doing a rational analysis and reporting on the noted plausible Golf Course options so that we can resolve our community conundrum and get on with a positive future.

Regards, Jim Verhey

1223 Kachina Court

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Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:56 PM
To: AMI acservice
Subject: Fwd: ArrowCreek Golf Course Options and Decision Framework/Reply

Hi Jeanne,

Just a quick note to see whether there is anything that may be expected in Board acknowledgment or reply to the communique that I sent sent a month ago.

Thanks.

Regards, Jim Verhey

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From: Jeanne Tarantino
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: ArrowCreek Golf Course Options and Decision Framework/Reply

Hi Jim,

I do not have an update. I know that the Committees and Board have had their hands full lately. I have sent an email to inquire about your request. Hopefully I can get you a response soon. Thank you for your patience.

Sincerely,

Jeanne Tarantino, PCAM, AMS, CMCA

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From: Jeanne Tarantino
Sent: 9/9/2015 11:22:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: RE: ArrowCreek Golf Course Options and Decision Framework/Reply

Hi Jim,

I contacted the Communications Committee about your below inquiry. They had not responded to you directly because the issues of concern are being discussed at the Special Meeting On September 16, 2015 (the attached agenda was mailed on 9/4/15) and some of the issues are addressed in President’s report in the Newsletter, being sent today (also attached). Hopefully the meeting and newsletter will provide you the information you are looking for. If you have further questions, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Jeanne Tarantino, PCAM, AMS, CMCA

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Funny, not ha ha….At the Communications Committee meeting this last Tuesday, it was said that no new questions had come in. The “Committee” never saw Jim’s questions. So, who did? Who responded?

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Here is Sam Fox’s President’s Report from the ArrowCreek Newsletter. Since it doesn’t have any substantiating facts in it, the board and ACCC should prepare themselves with facts to hand out at the Wednesday, Sept 16, Special ACHOA BOD Meeting to address the golf club issue.

By Sam Fox, Board President

ArrowCreek was developed with two championship golf courses. When the developers succeeded in selling all of their available lot’s they decided to discontinue the operation of the golf course. In 2006 when I first moved to this community there was great concern about what would happen to the golf courses. The property was eventually sold to some investors from Northern California. There was a sigh of relief as the new owners took over and proceeded to run the club. The owners were not successful as membership declined, operating losses mounted, the owners neglected to pay Washoe County for the water they were using, and they also did not pay the County property taxes. In 2013 the county filed to foreclose on the property for the overdue water payments and property taxes.

As a result of this action the owners filed for bankruptcy protection in January 2014. At this point a group of homeowners called the Friends of ArrowCreek (FOA) placed a competing bid
with the bankruptcy court. In October of 2014 the Court awarded the property to the FOA. The FOA has worked diligently to restore the Club to operation. They have made necessary repairs to the property and have hired a reputable management company Arnold Palmer Golf to run the day to day operation of the Club.

During this period of time the Board formed a committee, the ACCC
(ArrowCreek Community Club Committee), to look into all facets of the golf course. The due diligence conducted by the committee included a comprehensive review of all golf courses in the Reno area. The committee also conducted a study to see what the financial implications of a successful or failed golf course would have on the surrounding community in which it was located. The primary concern was to avoid the consequences of failed golf community such as D’andrea in Sparks and Northgate in Reno. Evidence suggests that these communities suffered a decrease in property values as a result of the golf courses being allowed to die. A dead golf course also creates a fire danger as dead grass, weeds and bushes provide fuel to any wild fire which may strike. The ArrowCreek property suffered a severe wild fire in 1992. Luckily this was prior to the building of any homes in the community.

ArrowCreek is a very diverse community. Some community members are golfers and they are very concerned about the ongoing success of the club. Some community members are not golfers and they do not believe the existing golf courses benefit the community. Many other community members are not golfers but they still like the idea of a golf course to continue to operate within the community but they do not feel the HOA should be involved at all with the operating of the golf Club. Most members of the community are united on one central issue – an ongoing successful functioning golf course is desirable for the ArrowCreek community.

The Board and the ACCC has investigated all aspects of the golf club business. We have looked at several ways in which we may partner with the golf club. We looked at doing absolutely nothing and hope that the current owners are successful. We looked at subsidizing the owner of the golf course to offset operating deficits. We looked at purchasing the golf club assets and converting the golf courses to other purposes within the community. We looked at purchasing the golf club assets and leasing the golf course operation to another operator. We also looked at purchasing the golf club assets and entering into a joint venture opportunity whereby the community would jointly own the club along with Arnold Palmer Golf Management.

The Board and the ACCC during its due diligence process and cost
benefit analysis have ruled out several proposals or elements of the above plans to determine if alternative solutions could be considered. The following assumptions have been eliminated from consideration by the Board and the ACCC:

1. The Board and the ACCC will not recommend any “forced” or mandatory membership in the Golf Club and have that cost paid through ACHOA monthly assessments. This option was not viable. Homeowners may join the club or not and that will be their sole decision on how to spend their discretionary funds.

2. The Board and ACCC will not recommend that the ACHOA enter into any agreement which will subject the homeowners to losses sustained by the operations of the Club. This ongoing liability has no cap and this is unacceptable to the Board and the ACCC. This also includes that the ACHOA will not provide any subsidy to support the status quo of the golf operation since it may not have a cap on the
ongoing liability.

3. The ACHOA and ACCC will not recommend significant monthly assessment increases to the membership where the increase will become a detriment to the community.

The Board and the ACCC however, believe that a stable well-functioning golf course operation is a definite plus for the community. This belief comes from several proven studies the Board has reviewed, analysis provided by Doctor Pingle of UNR, and by
discussions with local realtors who are active in the sale of homes in the ArrowCreek community.

As a result of the due diligence and vetting that the Board and ACCC has conducted, the Board and the ACCC believe that it is prudent to continue to work with the owners of the golf course to see if there is a way we can work together to insure the long term
success of the Club. I am certain that none of us want to revisit this situation again in the future.

A Special Golf Board Meeting has been scheduled for 9/16/15 to discuss ACHOA golf options. A meeting agenda was sent to all members on 9/4/15.

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ACHOA 2015 BOD Election Nomination Form Now Available

The ACHOA 2015 BOARD ELECTION NOMINATION FORM is now available and due returned 10/30/15 – That is Friday October 30, 2015 (All Day).

The “where to” is
ARROWCREEK HOA
c/o Associa Sierra North
10509 Professional Circle #200
Reno, NV 89521

Phone: 775-626-7333
Fax 775-626-7374
Email: acservice@associasn.com

Nominations for the Annual Election of Board Members – This year there are three positions that are up for election. The ballots will be counted at the Annual Members meeting on 12/8/15. The Board position is a volunteer position that can be filled by members that are in good standing in the community.

If you are interested in running for one of the three open Board positions, please complete and return the Candidate Nomination Forms provided no later than October 30, 2015. Forms are also posted on the arrowcreek-hoa.com website.

CLICK HERE TO PRINT/VIEW THE 2015 BOARD ELECTION NOMINATION FORM. It is a pdf file.

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ACHOA Sept-Oct 2015 Newsletter Now Available

The ACHOA Sept-Oct 2015 Newletter has just been circulated via e-mail and on the AttowCreek HOA website. It is also here on AC411 on the right hand side under ArrowCreek Links – click on Newsletters.

The ArrowCreek HOA Newsletter contains important information for all residents. The newsletter is only sent to Owners of the community. If you rent out or lease out your property, please be sure to share the newsletter with your tenants. Additional hard copies are available at the Residents Club. The newsletter is posted on the AC HOA website under Our Community under Newsletter. You must have a login to see the newsletter there. Of course, because tenants have no HOA account number, tenants can’t get to the information there.

Please Sign Up for ArrowCreek HOA Email Distribution (if you haven’t already done so)!

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