Official ACHOA Summary of 7-28-15 Realtor Forum

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Dear ACHOA Member,

The ACHOA Communications Committee informational meeting on Home Values and the Stability of the Real Estate Market within the Gates of ArrowCreek on July 28, 2915 was well attended and informative. Seven realtors participated to provide information.

CLICK HERE to review a summary of the 7/28/15 real estate presentation information.

Sincerely,

The ACHOA
Communications Committee

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Notice for the Self-Proclaimed “Intelligent People of ArrowCreek Who Don’t Read ArrowCreek411”






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Watch Out for the Snake in the Road!

The snakes are on the move here in ArrowCreek! Yesterday we saw a car swerve on Painted Vista to miss a 5-6 ft King Snake. We have seen several Garter Snakes in our yard.

I contacted a local snake expert, Bob Lissner, this morning. and he provided me some of the following information. I have also talked to Jeanne Tarantino (ArrowCreek’s Associa Manager), and the Nevada Department of Wildlife (NDOW).

If you see a snake on ACHOA Common Land, call ArrowCreek Security at 850-4450.

If the snake is on private property, see Wildlife Animal Control or (for a fee) Creature Catchers at (cell phone) 530-885-7378. Washoe County Animal Services only does cats, dogs and pets – no snakes or wildlife. NDOW suggested John Potash of Get Rattled 775-234-8844, Robert Kettle in Fallon 775-423-5237, Creature Catchers 530-885-7378 or Critter Control 1-800-CRITTER.

gopher snake pituophis melanoleucus deserticolaGopher snakes are a valuable part of the eco-system and harmless to people. They should be moved a little ways up or down the hill. They should not be killed just because somebody is personally afraid of snakes.




rattlesnake Crotalus_viridis_lutosusRattlers are a little harder to justify because they hurt dogs, and rarely, people.

WildLifeRescue has some photos of common Reno snakes.

Reno snake expert, John Potash, of Get Rattled, does snake avoidance classes. He can teach a lot of dogs in not much time. The dogs leave the class with it firmly in their minds that snakes are to be left alone. Please look at the poll questions below, and vote. If enough people respond, we will look into having a class at the Residence Center/Dog Park.

A clip from MyNews4.com & KRNV from last year:
MyNews4.com Snake Clip

A clip from KTVN from this year:
4/16 – 5pm – Drought's Impact on Snakes

Here is a University of Nevada Cooperative Extension-Nevada Department of Wildlife Partnership publication on Northern Nevada snakes: Venomous Reptiles of Nevada

Those of you with dogs: I have not spoken to Get Rattled yet, but based on the video clip, please consider responding to these two poll questions. The Get Rattled website looks like they may have training only on Saturdays and Sundays.

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Good Advice From Sunday RGJ Paper Horoscope Column

Even the skeptics among us should pay heed to today’s horoscope reading in the Reno Gazette Journal for people born under the sign of Leo (July 23-Aug 22):

The conflict will subside once you stop thinking of the other party as the “them” to your “us.” Instead, think of the other party as part of your “us,” which, for the moment, happens to hold a different opinion.

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Troubles with Some E-mail Links to Fire Marshal Article

Some readers of ArrowCreek411 told me the Fire Marshal article link is broken (404). While working through the issue with a couple readers, I found the problem. Please use this link to get to the article if you can’t get there through your email link from this afternoon’s notification. The webpage isn’t broken. Just that email link is broken. Click here for the “Truckee Meadows Fire Marshal Addresses Abatement Issues” article.

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A Timeline of Mismanagement and Fear

By Ron Duncan with a noted assist from Don Smaltz

No one wants The Club at ArrowCreek to fail. However, the high handed manner that the ArrowCreek Home Owners’ Association (ACHOA) Board of Directors (BOD) has approached the failings of the previous club has not drawn the community together as someone, not clear who, wanted or desired. The below set of events and timeline portray a stark indictment of the Elected ‘volunteers’ of the ACHOA BOD. You will not find a ‘concern’ for property values until a YEAR after it was decided to acquire the Golf club. Now, we find ourselves being told that the ‘best thing’ for our property is to buy the land and then determine what to do with the 405 undeveloped acres of the golf course, the courses actually take up only ~120 acres of the FOA property. The best ALTERNATIVE has always been to leave it in private hands as there are way too many costs associated with owning the additional acreage, not the least of which would be fire prevention and potential clean-up of any toxins used while it was part of the golf course. Other factors that have bothered many in our community is the need, IF the ACHOA owns the property, to cover any bank and tax obligations should the property not be able to cover these obligations. Since we will not be able to dispose of this property at a ‘profit,’ what’s the point of purchasing it?

There is NO vision, other than the subdivision to pay through the nose, to sustain a losing golf course.

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28 July 2015 – ACHOA Communications Committee holds a Realtor forum. Paul Burkett states, in his opening remarks, that there is “no deal or proposition” at this time. The meeting is merely to provide the community information on the real estate market. NOTE: No one asked if there was/is a ‘proposal’ at this time. Technically the speaker did not lie.

21 July 2015 – Communications Committee meeting – Norm Reeder in opening remarks says “there is no deal or proposition at this time.” Norm is one of the negotiators with the FOA.

9 June 2015 – ACHOA BOD meeting – The HOA is looking at the option of the HOA buying the golf course and leasing it to an entity to run. The holdup has been getting financials from Arnold Palmer Management and FOA. The information should be forthcoming and digested within a month or so. The board will come up with proposals for the options, but NOT the Option of doing ‘NOTHING.’

31 May 2015 – Letter of Intent (LOI) to purchase the Club at AC and form a joint venture expired. No attempt was made to renew it or develop a new version and bring it forward to the ACHOA Board on 9 June 2015.

27 April 2015 – From Maddox, Segerblom and Canepa LLP Billing Statement Line Item – Receive, review and respond to e-mail from Board of Directors regarding ballot proposal; review same; respond to e-mail regarding same.

14 April 2015 – ACHOA BOD meeting – Rich Kenney “The Communications Committee received a home value impact literature study:

  • It supports the previous research conclusion that a viable golf club enhances community home values
  • Consequently, we continue to look at actions that will ensure a sustainable golf club operation at a reasonable cost
    • The Committee has researched and discussed an alternative approach:
      • HOA acquires the club property and then leases it to Arnold Palmer Golf
      • Could potentially minimize some of the issues associated with the joint venture approach
      • Had preliminary discussions with FOA and APGM, but too early to determine if financially or structurally feasible
    • One of several alternatives that need to be investigated

NOTE: There is NO mention of an NDA being signed to further this investigation.

6 April 2015 – ACHOA BOD President signs a Non-Disclosure Agreement with Friends of ArrowCreek (FOA). Agreement does not cover data prior to 6 April nor does it cover any ‘negotiations’ with the FOA. BOD still maintains, in spite of being presented facts to the contrary, that ArrowCreek (AC) property values would be significantly impacted by a closure of the privately held golf course.

24 February 2015 – ACHOA Board Meeting –
Rick Hsu – Spoke to agenda Item 3(a)(i) – The Articles of Incorporation and for-profit business. He disagrees with HOA attorney on the opinion provided to the board. Does not believe that the HOA can be a for-profit entity.

S. Fox responded that there is no proposed amendment to bring forward at this time on a partnership with Golf. As of this date there has been a change in the direction the Golf Club has taken; they want to go private.

Questions followed:
– Is the study for the impact of the golf course on community property still proceeding? Yes.
– What is the cost of the study? There are two parts of the study. The cost for both parts is approx. $5000.
– Does the property value study look at the complete picture: both sides of the equation? Yes.
– When will the study be available? A presentation will be made during the meeting.

The [Communications] Committee recommends ratification of the approval to hire UNR to conduct a survey of property values and associated golf course impacts and to assist with a community census and survey of interests and demographics. The cost for both activities will be approximately $5000. The demographic survey addresses what members in ArrowCreek want to see in the community going forward. The survey will be useful whether or not the HOA pursues the purchase of golf. UNR has also been asked to complete research on the impact of a golf course on property values. It is an objective study. The only input the HOA gave UNR is to answer the question “what is the impact.” The study is to include a golf course closing and of the raising of assessments. Townhall meetings will be scheduled well before any vote, should there be a vote.

Motion: S. Fox moved to RATIFY the approval to hire UNR to conduct a survey of owners and to complete research on how golf impacts property values. The cost of the survey and research will not exceed $5,000.

4 February 2015 – E-Mail From J. Tarantino, Associa Manager of ArrowCreek; Committee meetings are informal and committees are not required to take minutes.  Please note that no action can be taken at committee meetings or by committees at all.  The purpose of committees is to research tasks and then to bring information before the board for board action at a noticed meeting. I hope that helps to clarify.  Please feel free to contact me if you have further questions. NOTE: The expenditure of $5,000 was ‘approved,’ via e-mail, out of Board with Ratification posted to the next Board meeting. A Clear violation of NRS 116.31085

17 November 2014 – ACHOA BOD meeting – LOI [Letter of Intent] Approved and signed – MOTION: S. Fox moved to proceed with the Joint Letter of Intent with Arnold Palmer as recommended by the ACCC. P. Burkett seconded. Discussion ensued. It was clarified that this is a non-binding agreement for information gathering purposes, and to allow negotiations with Arnold Palmer and FOA.

26 August 2014 – ACHOA BOD meeting – GOLF PRESENTATION – Since a majority of homeowners were present to discuss the ArrowCreek Country Club (ACCC) situation, a presentation with handouts were prepared for the owners. There is a non-disclosure agreement with Arnold Palmer Golf. The residents can speak amongst themselves about the topic but should not talk about the details of the presentation outside of the community. The full presentation given this evening will be posted on the HOA website for view by all owners. Thank you to the ArrowCreek Community Golf Committee for their hard work to put this together. A full presentation was made, there was a question and answer period.
ARROWCREEK COMMUNITY CLUB COMMITTEE UPDATE
This item (agenda item 7.f.) was moved to this portion of the meeting due to it being the topic of homeowner discussed.

24 August 2014 – E-Mail Exchange – Subject 8/26 BOD mtg;
From Robin Hoa a/k/a Rakusin
To Messrs. Kenny, Smith, Reeder, Burkett, Fox, Gurnee, Dickinson, Kirsch,Elliot, Ross, Tarantino

Since the cat is/will be out of the bag on Tues, and we expect a lot of people, I suggest a simple focus (probably golfer biased) survey to hand out and collect at the meeting …cost would be negligible to get a sense of support by the community and give us an idea of marketing work cut out for us…

Response of Norm & Jan Reeder to Hoa a/k/a Ruskin and Kenny et al re 8/26/ board meeting:
I am reluctant to conduct a survey at this very early stage …most likely the response we get this week will be based more on emotion vs. thinking through the issue which will take some time coupled with additional meetings. I would de-emphasize golf and focus on the benefits of being a social member of the new “Community Club”…

1 August 2014 – ACHOA BOD President, Sam Fox, signs a Non-Disclosure Agreement with Palmer management LLC. Agreement only covers the exchange of data not negotiations.

14 April 2014 – E-mail – Subject: RE: ACC Committee Meeting with Arnold Palmer Golf
From Paul Burkett to Messrs. Kenny, Fox, Rakusin, Robertson,Reeder, Anderson and Tarantino,
Short term management issues for the management of the courses? …Impact and duties for ACHOA as the leader in these efforts…Legal review and recommendations? …Transparency issues and information for the ACHOA membership? Town Hall meeting subjects?…

NOTE: The fact of this deal was kept secret from the homeowners, and no survey or sampling was undertaken to determine if there was a consensus that the HOA should consider, let alone pursue, the possible purchase of the golf courses prior to the time the announcement was made to the HOA.

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Is it time to get rid of this fox den?

DenMod1

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Truckee Meadows Fire Marshal Addresses Abatement Issues

Here is the Fire Marshal’s response to the CNA inquiry that was read aloud at the Realtor Forum during the Q and A period. The Fire Marshall is willing to speak at an ACHOA Board meeting or other homeowner forum:

July 23, 2015
RE: Arrowcreek Golf Course Property

As a homeowner, you are responsible for maintaining the property that you own. We cannot require you to maintain property that you do not own or that you do not have a financial interest in which would make you responsible for the maintenance of that property. The owners of the golf course property are, or will be, responsible for the maintenance of that parcel and property. If the HOA takes responsibility, or purchases the golf course property, then it would be responsible for abatement issues.

Amy Ray CFPS
Fire Marshal
Truckee Meadows Fire Protection District
1001 E. Ninth St., Bldg. D, Ste. 210
Reno, NV 89512
Office: 775-326-6005 Cell: 775-313-1592
e-mail: aray@tmfpd.us

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For Referenced Meeting, see:
A Synopsis of the Third ACHOA Communication Committee Meeting – Realtor Forum
or
Afterthoughts on the 7-28-2015 Informational Meeting

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Questions About Property Value Conclusions

This comment was submitted on 2015/07/14 at 10:40 am but it went into the ArrowCreek411 Spam Filter for some unknown reason. It was originally in reply to Kerry McKinney’s comment on June 27, 2015, but it would also be valid for the updates to that post that Bob Smith originally responded to:

Original Posting of Assessor’s Records for ArrowCreek

Updated Posting of Assessor’s Records for ArrowCreek – for Bob Smith Response

Latest Posting of Assessor’s Records for ArrowCreek

The points made are the same – only the number of sales changed between the postings.

Other References:
June 2015 Study on Golf Course Closure Impacts On Home Values in Northgate and D’Andrea
Demographic Survey Results

==========From Bob Smith========

Mr. McKinney, here are some other facts you may wish to consider.

Ron,

I am not sure what you are trying to convey in this post. Point # 1 is somewhat straight forward – data on houses that sold in ArrowCreek from December 2014 and June 2015 indicate that houses with boundaries, that do not touch the golf, course sold at a 3.9% premium. Is your inference here that property collocation with the golf course does not add value to the price/sq ft? Were you able to consider the many other variables (views and views of the golf course, upgrades etc) that drive price/sg ft?

For your point # 2, I am not sure why you’re recommending adding these new amenities given the data from the ArrowCreek demographic survey. The ArrowCreek demographic survey indicates that only 4% were in favor of walking trails and only 2% wished to have bicycle trails. I saw no mention of exercise stations in the wish list of new amenities for ArrowCreek. According to the survey, 68% of the respondents use the Residency center two or fewer times per month. My household is in the 4% category and it is unusually to have waiting times for any of equipment.

In point #3 you state that the ArrowCreek demographic survey indicates that only 21% of Arrowcreek residents identify with golf. My reading of the survey is different. Question #7 asked – “Why did you move to Arrowcreek – 37.5% indicated golf. For question #9 the response indicated that 32% used the golf course. For question # 14 respondents indicated by 49.4% that they enjoyed golf as a summer activity.

Given that the ArrowCreek survey was conducted in the March/April time frame when club membership was ~200 and given now that the club membership has increased to ~475, and the Club value proposition has increased measurably, maybe the 21% you refer to has increased.

Thanks to you and your wife for expending the effort with the 411 web site. It does provide a good forum for ArrowCreek communication.

Regards
Bob Smith

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Afterthoughts on the 7-28-2015 Informational Meeting

By Shawn Townsell

Some of the responses and comments made by the realtors and members of the audience at the ACHOA Communication Committee Informational Meeting #3 held Tuesday, July 28, 2015, were based on premises that I think deserve a second look, and some things were left unsaid, that need to be brought up. Unfortunately, the format of our informational meetings with presentations, or the Q & As, does not allow any real discussion.

  1. Premise: “If we let the golf course go brown”: the primary premise here seemed to be that if the HOA does not buy the golf course (GC) and subsidize it, it will go brown.

    1st: The FOA owns the golf course: should the GC fail, it would be in their best interest to sell it in the best condition possible. The letter of intent expired; it never was a legally binding agreement to either party. The FOA has always been free to offer the GC on the free market and accept the best bid.

    2nd: The second possible brown course scenario would be: if we, the HOA, would buy a brown, meaning failed, golf course from the FOA. That would be a poor business decision, as that would be the 2nd failure of the GC.

    3rd: The third possible brown course scenario would be: if the HOA bought it, and the course failed under our management. WE DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE THAT RISK: WE DO NOT HAVE TO BUY THE GOLF COURSE.
  2. Premise: Letting the GC go brown by choice, after we bought it, will cost us more than keeping it green and buying the GC property and running it as the golf course is the cheapest option.

    1st: With currently around 500 members, the GC is still running at about $ 1M deficit. This was announced during the 2nd informational meeting on 7/7/15. Many of the new members are not AC residents. At around 450 members years ago, with higher membership rates, the yearly operational deficit was $ 1.5M. Current membership rates are attractive, but are only introductory, and not sustainable as past experience tells us. When, not if, the rates go up next year, the deficit will increase when members decide to play at cheaper courses or stop being social members. We have yet to hear real numbers. Current membership rates will not be what the Arnold Palmer Management Group will base its long-term business plan on and consequently valid figures will not be available until actual, calculated membership fees have been in place for a minimum of one year. Only then will we see an iota of the actual potential of “the business.” Everybody seems to be fixated on the $100 increase in HOA fee. What was not said and seems to always slip people’s minds is that we already know this will only roughly cover the yearly operational deficit, not the major capital investments and other costs of maintaining the courses and the club house. Leasing the GC to Arnold Palmer or some other management group, or hiring a management group will add management fees to the equation.

    2nd: The estimates calculated during the 7/7/15 meeting for the options of converting the courses back to native desert, keeping it watered and green, or converting it or parts of it into a park were misleading. What was not said was that: if we buy the GC property we would only have to deal with repurposing the actual courses (or parts of them) which represent about 1/4 – 1/3 of the approx. 500+ acres of GC property; the rest already is native desert land. The real numbers are yet to be shared with us.
  3. Premise: If we buy the GC, we will have stability within AC and thus stability of home values. An increase of the HOA fee to $300, or even up to $ 400 or $ 500 a month is cheap, especially for buyers from California. Some potential buyers may be lost with increasing HOA fees, but not knowing what is going to happen, is worse than a high monthly HOA fee.

    1st: again: What was not said was that if we buy the GC we will be responsible for any and all costs related to the GC: major capital investments, staff salaries/benefits, down to every item in the in the gift shop, the kitchen, and every plate and fork used at the GC, the list goes on – AND we will assume responsibility for fire mitigation on the GC property, AND assume all liability and resulting costs of litigation. This means we may face not only limitless raises in HOA fees, but also limitless special assessments. What was not said was that the future of the golf industry remains uncertain. I would say that buying the GC is the definition of unpredictability and instability.

    2nd: Losing a potential buyer may be of little consequence to a realtor, but it may mean everything to the seller, who, even in a recovering real estate market, is still lucky to get just one offer on his house.
  4. Premise: Letting it go brown will affect all home values in AC, because the standard for home values is set by the more expensive homes on the golf course.

    If we go by the numbers provided on this site from the Washoe County Assessor records: homes not adjacent to the golf course sell for at least the same $ amount/SqFt if not more when compared with homes sitting on the GC. The comps relevant to the buyer or seller are similar homes, similar size, and price per SqFt within a certain price range. Within that price range, the buyer has to decide where he gets the most for his buck and most of his needs and wants met. It does not matter what the bigger, higher end homes up the road cost. Each home has to compete on the market within its own class. What matters is if the added cost of hundreds of dollars in HOA fees, and thousands of dollars in special assessments is worth it for the buyer whether he buys a home on the golf course or elsewhere in AC.
  5. Premise: Letting it go brown will increase the fire risk and cost for fire mitigation/fuel reduction.

    This is the case only if the HOA buys the GC: a letter from the Fire Marshal was read by a resident to the audience confirming that according to NV law, while the GC property is owned by the FOA, the HOA is not responsible for fire mitigation, even if the golf club goes bankrupt.
  6. Premise: The Golf Course is the soul of Arrowcreek.

    The demographic study of our community paid for by all of us revealed that only about 20% of AC residents are golfers, 6% are social members, about 38% chose to live here because of the GC, and 32% actually use the GC. Based on these numbers the GC is only the essence of this community in the minds of the minority of AC homeowners.

Shawn T.

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A Synopsis of the Third ACHOA Communication Committee Meeting – Realtor Forum

by Ron Duncan

Last Tuesday (July 28) evening an ACHOA Communication Committee sponsored Realtor Forum was held at The Club at ArrowCreek at 5:30 PM. (I’m sorry for those who have to work for a living who missed it.) The seven realtors were very candid in their remarks and answers to audience questions. Although the setting at The Club was with a backdrop of the golf course, they all made it clear that golf was not a primary driver to property values. In fact, to an individual they cited, price, views, manned gated security and amenities for the price. Other key points of the forum were:

  1. With respect to home values, ArrowCreek seems to have gotten ahead of the curve on pricing. There are 30 properties currently listed in ArrowCreek (AC) and that equates to roughly a 30 month supply.
  2. The Realtors mentioned that the appointments and construction of the AC community is now ‘aged’ in place and may not have the features that more recent construction is employing. Many of our homes are ten to fifteen years old and may need upgrades to compete in today’s market at the price being asked.
  3. The ‘Tesla/Panasonic effect’ is not likely to create a large demand in AC as most of the jobs are technician level and the workers will most likely choose Sparks, Fernley, or other cities in Lyon and Douglas Counties for homes – or perhaps Double Diamond with the new SouthEast Connector parkway under construction.
  4. HOA dues are among the lowest in Washoe County. Buyers look at what they get for the money they pay and our amenities, the residents center, the pool, the tennis facilities, the children’s play areas, the gym facilities, are all valued assets for the price.
  5. Uncertainty within a development puts off buyers. They all said they could deal with whatever the property owners decide with respect to the golf course. The key is to make a decision and the Realtors will deal with it no matter which way it goes.
  6. A Californian then brought up what California mandates of people who reside in a fire zone, no matter who owns the property. The facts are that in Nevada the prevention and mitigation of fire hazards is the sole responsibility of the property owner (this according to a letter read by a Nevadan from the Washoe County Fire Marshall).


This was a very good meeting and should likely be put on every six months, or so, to keep us current on what’s happening in the property market. Other than the fact that there are a lot of properties currently on the market (This hurts prices.) and there’s the uncertainty surrounding the golf club, we’re in a very good place and attractive community.

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